Interview with Cardinal Dolan on HHS mandate

Wall Street Journal reporter interviews Timothy Cardinal Dolan on conversations between himself and the President on the HHS mandate.  Cardinal Dolan reveals that Obama was neither honest nor forthcoming.  Cardinal Dolan relates that, after his November meeting with Obama in the White House,

“I said, ‘I’ve heard you say, first of all, that you have immense regard for the work of the Catholic Church in the United States in health care, education and charity. . . . I have heard you say that you are not going to let the administration do anything to impede that work and . . . that you take the protection of the rights of conscience with the utmost seriousness. . . . Does that accurately sum up our conversation?’ [Mr. Obama] said, ‘You bet it does.'”

The archbishop asked for permission to relay the message to the other bishops. “You don’t have my permission, you’ve got my request,” the president replied.

Cardinal Dolan left the White House optimistic that the president would keep his promise to honor conscience protection.  He was to be disappointed.

“So you can imagine the chagrin,” Archbishop Dolan continues, “when he called me at the end of January to say that the mandates remain in place and that there would be no substantive change, and that the only thing that he could offer me was that we would have until August. . . . I said, ‘Mr. President, I appreciate the call. Are you saying now that we have until August to introduce to you continual concerns that might trigger a substantive mitigation in these mandates?’ He said, ‘No, the mandates remain. We’re more or less giving you this time to find out how you’re going to be able to comply.’ I said, ‘Well, sir, we don’t need the [extra time]. I can tell you now we’re unable to comply.'”

The maneuvering and dishonesty of the administration contented when they announced an accommodation that changed nothing.

Archbishop Dolan explains that the “accommodation” solves nothing, since most church-affiliated organizations either are self-insured or purchase coverage from Catholic insurance companies like Christian Brothers Investment Services and Catholic Mutual Group, which also see the mandate as “morally toxic.”

Cardinal Dolan describes one of the major problems with the HHS mandate.

“We find it completely unswallowable, both as Catholics and mostly as Americans, that a bureau of the American government would take it upon itself to define ‘ministry,'” Archbishop Dolan says. “We would find that to be—we’ve used the words ‘radical,’ ‘unprecedented’ and ‘dramatically intrusive.'”

Cardinal Dolan further explains some of the challenges encountered fighting this mandate, both within the Church and in the public square.  Read the entire interview–it’s worth your time.

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